From footage at panix.com Wed Jun 2 00:22:21 2004 From: footage at panix.com (Rick Prelinger) Date: Thu Jun 3 09:04:05 2004 Subject: [Rumori] "Panorama Ephemera" screening Message-ID: Greetings, I'm going to show "Panorama Ephemera," a feature-length collage film I recently finished, at the San Francisco Cinematheque on Sunday, June 13 at 7:30 pm. Please come if you can. You can read a description, view or download it at http://www.archive.org/movies/movies-details-db.php?collection=feature_films&collectionid=panorama_ephemera The description also follows at the end of this email. The screening will take place at California College of Arts, 1111 Eighth St., San Francisco. Directions here: http://www.cca.edu/cgi-bin/dad?record=directions&dbase=reach For New Yorkers: I'll be showing it on 9/20 at Anthology Film Archives. Thanks, hope to see you, Rick - - - - - - - - - - - PANORAMA EPHEMERA (2004, 89:35 min., color and black and white) is a collage of sequences drawn from a wide variety of ephemeral (industrial, advertising, educational and amateur) films, touring the conflicted landscapes of twentieth-century America. The films' often-skewed visions construct an American history filled with horror and hope, unreeling in familiar and unexpected ways. PANORAMA EPHEMERA focuses on familiar and mythical activities and images in America (1626-1978). Many creatures and substances that we hardly notice because we feel so used to them take center stage, including pigs, corn, water, telephones, fire, and rice. At first resembling a compilation, it soon reveals itself as a journey through the American landscape over time, and the story begins to emerge between the sequences. The film consists of 64 self-contained film sequences ranging from 5 seconds to 4 minutes in length arranged into a narrative. Unlike many films made using archival footage, it's primarily a combination of sequences rather than a collage of individual shots. PANORAMA EPHEMERA is populated by American children, animals, farmers, industrial workers, superheroes, pioneers heading West, crash test dummies, and many others. PANORAMA EPHEMERA is released under a Creative Commons "Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike" license, and may be freely shown, copied, or distributed according to the terms of this license (http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/). -- Rick Prelinger Prelinger Archives http://www.prelinger.com P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622 USA footage@panix.com Online film collection at Internet Archive: http://www.archive.org/movies/prelinger.php From steev at detritus.net Thu Jun 3 10:13:00 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Thu Jun 3 09:13:03 2004 Subject: [Rumori] "Panorama Ephemera" screening In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on Tue, 1 Jun 2004 Rick Prelinger told me: ->Greetings, -> ->I'm going to show "Panorama Ephemera," a feature-length collage film ->I recently finished, at the San Francisco Cinematheque on Sunday, ->June 13 at 7:30 pm. Please come if you can. -> ->You can read a description, view or download it at ->http://www.archive.org/movies/movies-details-db.php?collection=feature_films&collectionid=panorama_ephemera this url doesn't seem to be quite right. i found that this one works: http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?collection=feature_films&collectionid=panorama_ephemera2004 smh p.s. hah, good accidentally relevant quote, below (my sig quotes are randomly chosen) Steev Hise . steev@detritus.net . http://detritus.net/steev new blog: http://steev.hise.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Now is perhaps the time to say that the special effects -- the scaly critters and planetary landscapes, the swordplay and the spaceship chases -- demonstrate impressive polish and visual integrity. But now is also the time to say: so what?" -A.O. Scott, review of a Star Wars film ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pl1x at earthlink.net Thu Jun 3 22:00:02 2004 From: pl1x at earthlink.net (PeterALopez) Date: Thu Jun 3 18:00:21 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Archivist Needed: TV Commercial collection looking for a new home Message-ID: <21790518.1086310805618.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> (If this is real) Someone please help this individual. It's a wonderful accomplishment, which needs to be saved. http://newyork.craigslist.org/about/best/nyc/31478505.html Date: Mon May 17 21:59:33 2004 For the past 20 years I have recorded EVERY television commercial on CBS, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. From Sony to Salad Shooter from Pontiac to Prego, I've captured them all! Each day at midnight I let a tape record for 6 hours, insert a new tape for recording, and repeat twice more. After that, on my other VCR's I edit out all the shows which yields roughly 6 hours and 24 minutes of commercials daily. I now have 46,720 hours of commercials stored on 7,787 VHS tapes. But I have grown old and weary and would like to leave this legacy of tapes to someone with an equal passion for television commercials who wants to continue the work. Please write to me and let me know why my collection would mean the world to you. Be very specific! The person who shows me the greatest interest will carry on the project. Regards, Paul it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From footage at panix.com Thu Jun 3 21:46:06 2004 From: footage at panix.com (Rick Prelinger) Date: Thu Jun 3 20:45:38 2004 Subject: FwRe: Fw: [Rumori] Archivist Needed: TV Commercial collection looking for anew home Message-ID: Simon Carless at the Internet Archive wrote: >> >I'm 99 percent positive he's trolling/gathering material for a book - see: > >http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/res/31788574.html > >...and particularly: > >http://portland.craigslist.org/about/best/nyc/31576342.html > >http://dallas.craigslist.org/bar/30069342.html > >http://london.craigslist.org/bks/30378909.html > >[this is the same guy - he didn't bother obfuscating his email address.] > >But maybe he's an obsessive collector as well as a 'funny guy', you >never know :P But I doubt it :/ > >s! -- Rick Prelinger Prelinger Archives http://www.prelinger.com P.O. Box 590622, San Francisco, Calif. 94159-0622 USA footage@panix.com Online film collection at Internet Archive: http://www.archive.org/movies/prelinger.php From alias at aliasfrequencies.org Sun Jun 6 23:13:29 2004 From: alias at aliasfrequencies.org (shannon o'neill) Date: Sun Jun 6 05:14:13 2004 Subject: [Rumori] [Sydney] Terre Thaemlitz Lecture at UTS, Wednesday June 9 Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040606221311.03486510@aliasfrequencies.org> TERRE THAEMLITZ LECTURE AT UTS 2pm, Wednesday June 9 Lecture Theatre 3.510 Level 5, Building 3 ('Bon Marche', cnr Harris St & Broadway) University of Technology, Sydney Free - All welcome! Terre Thaemlitz (USA/Japan) is an award winning multi-media producer, writer, public speaker, educator, audio remixer, DJ and owner of the Comatonse Recordings record label. For the better part of a decade, Terre Thaemlitz has been at the beating heart of electro-acoustic and computer based musics, completing a role as one of the central figures of the ambient scene of the mid-nineties. His work critically combines themes of identity politics - including gender, sexuality, class, linguistics, ethnicity and race - with an ongoing critique of the socio-economics of commercial media production. This diversity of themes is matched by Thaemlitz' wide range of production styles, which include electroacoustic computer music, club oriented deep house, digital jazz, ambient, and computer composed neo-expressionist piano solos. As a speaker and educator on issues of non-essentialist transgenderism and Queer theory, Thaemlitz has participated in panel discussions throughout Europe and Japan, as well as held numerous cross-cultural sensitivity workshops at Tokyo's Uplink Factory, near his current residence in Kawasaki, Japan. At UTS, Terre Thaemlitz will be speaking on the subject of gender and sexuality in contemporary electronic music: The concern of how to increase the number of women and transgendered people producing electronic music is like the question of how to increase women-produced pornography... there are some cultural spheres in which 'equal representation' will never exist on a material level, and acknowledging this is not conceding to defeat. Within such a tangential and specialized field as Computer Music, is there a cultural need for more women and transgendered producers? Does academia and the music marketplace's liberal-minded need to 'include' and 'represent' such producers inspire or tokenize our activities? What practices have we developed outside of academia and the music marketplace? Given that most gender discussions are dominated by 'women's issues,' and that strategies of gender representation vastly differ between women and transgendered people, what aliances and frictions exist between women and transgendered producers? How is Computer Music a suitable medium for discussing any of these questions in the first place? Presented by Media Arts and Production, Faculty of Humanities & Social Sciences, UTS. Terre Thaemlitz is in Australia to present his Lovebomb performance. Tour Dates: Thursday June 10 - Disorientation - Sydney Saturday June 12 - Fabrique, Brisbane Powerhouse - Brisbane Friday June 18 - Kaleide Theatre, RMIT ? Melbourne Award winning multi-media producer, theorist, public speaker, educator and DJ Terre Thaemlitz will debut Lovebomb - his latest multimedia performance work and released on Mille Plateaux ? in Australia this month. Starting with an introductory explanation of the main theme, the Lovebomb audio/video performance will conclude with audience questions and discussion. Sydney show: LOVEBOMB Thursday 10 June, 8pm. $10 donation. Lanfranchi's Memorial Discotheque 2/144 Cleveland St Chippendale, Sydney Supports: Pimmon, Donna Hewitt & Julian Knowles, Team Australia http://aliasfrequencies.org/disorientation/ Brisbane show: LOVEBOMB Saturday 12 June, 9.30pm Fabrique Spark Bar Brisbane Powerhouse Centre for the Live Arts 119 Lamington Street New Farm, Queensland http://www.room40.org/events Melbourne show: LOVEBOMB Friday 18 June, 7pm. Kaleide RMIT Union Theatre 360 Swanston Street, Melbourne Tickets: $15/$12 + bf. Pre-sales available from Synaesthesia. t. 03 9663 3551 A limited number of tickets will be available on the night. Supports: Antediluvian Rocking Horse with visuals by Emile Zile. http://www.liquidarchitecture.org.au From erodneyjones at yahoo.com Sun Jun 6 14:06:42 2004 From: erodneyjones at yahoo.com (e.rodney. jones) Date: Sun Jun 6 13:07:17 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock Message-ID: <20040606200642.72608.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings. I'm looking for some good recs on audio material of "our" now-deceased ex-president, RR. I'm planning to incorporate this material into a radio show I'll be doing later this week (on KALX in Berkeley CA). Anyone got any ideas (and sources)? I'm thinking of either works that use his voice or straight audio that I would be able to use (from all points in his career). I'm especially looking for a copy (in any format) of this thing released on LP long ago: "Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine". Anyone got a copy of this? I'm also interested in recs of songs about him, not necc. involving his sounds (i.e. Suicidal Tendencies' "I Shot Reagan," Crucifucks' "Hinckley had a Vision," DKs, Reagan Youth, etc. Any hip hop? Any *pro* Reagan music, recordings? On or off list. Thanks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From postalscale at yahoo.com Sun Jun 6 15:43:45 2004 From: postalscale at yahoo.com (Paul Smith) Date: Sun Jun 6 14:44:19 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: <20040606200642.72608.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040606214345.17367.qmail@web50107.mail.yahoo.com> Well, Rich Little was a good impersonator, and samples of "The First Family Rides Again" would be hard to tell from the real thing. For something more olblique, the mid-80's rap group Rock Shock's lone album had an alternate version of their own "On The Avenue" that includes, among other things, Reagan responding to an alien attack. --- "e.rodney. jones" wrote: > Greetings. > > I'm looking for some good recs on audio material of > "our" now-deceased ex-president, RR. I'm planning to > incorporate this material into a radio show I'll be > doing later this week (on KALX in Berkeley CA). > Anyone > got any ideas (and sources)? I'm thinking of either > works that use his voice or straight audio that I > would be able to use (from all points in his > career). > > I'm especially looking for a copy (in any format) of > this thing released on LP long ago: "Ronald Reagan > Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine". Anyone got > a > copy of this? > > I'm also interested in recs of songs about him, not > necc. involving his sounds (i.e. Suicidal > Tendencies' > "I Shot Reagan," Crucifucks' "Hinckley had a > Vision," > DKs, Reagan Youth, etc. Any hip hop? Any *pro* > Reagan > music, recordings? > > On or off list. > > Thanks > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ ===== I think Patrick Stewart is ad-libbing his commercials for Crestor __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From edspecial at digitalrealm.net Sun Jun 6 18:58:23 2004 From: edspecial at digitalrealm.net (Ed Special) Date: Sun Jun 6 14:57:29 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rot In-Reply-To: <20040606200642.72608.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sunday, June 6, 2004, at 04:06 PM, e.rodney. jones wrote: > Greetings. > > I'm looking for some good recs on audio material of > "our" now-deceased ex-president, RR. I'm planning to > incorporate this material into a radio show I'll be > doing later this week (on KALX in Berkeley CA). Anyone > got any ideas (and sources)? I'm thinking of either > works that use his voice or straight audio that I > would be able to use (from all points in his career). > > I'm especially looking for a copy (in any format) of > this thing released on LP long ago: "Ronald Reagan > Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine". Anyone got a > copy of this? > > I'm also interested in recs of songs about him, not > necc. involving his sounds (i.e. Suicidal Tendencies' > "I Shot Reagan," Crucifucks' "Hinckley had a Vision," > DKs, Reagan Youth, etc. Any hip hop? Any *pro* Reagan > music, recordings? > > On or off list. > > Thanks I'll try to digitize, edit and post mp3s from several hours' worth of Special Ed * Reagan radio collages this week. I''l post links to a few files for downloading as soon as they are ready. *(WCBN-FM 88.3 Ann Arbor - we remember Steev) For now, here are a few: Special Ed multiple skipping record festival splice-n-dice with Reagan edits from Dangling Ganglion's "Ignorance Is A Blister" (Ed Special): http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/LackOfSpareParts.mp3 Doug Kahn's famous Bill Moyers/Ronald Reagan cut/paste: http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~jima/mp3/Doug_Kahn_- _Reagan_Speaks_For_Himself.mp3 an excerpt from Cliff Roth's" the reagans speak out on drugs" http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/Ronald_Reagan- drug_speech.mp3 http://www.buyindies.com/listings/1/0/1072220576000.html (pretty sure this is Loudon Wainwright III): http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/ Talking_Ronald_Reagan_Blues.mp3 (I think I found this on Otis Fodder's 365 Days Project): http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/ Right_Man_in_the_White_Hs_Reagan.mp3 "...We begin bombong in five minutes." http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/ begin_bombing_in_5_minutes.mp3 I'd digitize and post my copy of "The Wit and Wisdom of Ronald Reagan", but, well, you know . . . A mother-load of sound files and transcripts in the MSU Library: http://www.lib.msu.edu/digital/vincent/findaids/ReaganR.html ------- a short list of Reagan quotes: "Trees cause more pollution than automobiles." "All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk." "The state of California has no business subsidizing intellectual curiosity." ?responding to student protests on college campuses during his tenure as California governor "Approximately 80 percent of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources." "We are trying to get unemployment to go up, and I think we're going to succeed." "What we have found in this country, and maybe we're more aware of it now, is one problem that we've had, even in the best of times, and that is the people who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless who are homeless, you might say, by choice." "How are you, Mr. Mayor? I'm glad to meet you. How are things in your city?" ?greeting Samual Pierce, his secretary of Housing and Urban Development, during a White House reception for mayors "My name is Ronald Reagan. What's yours?" ?introducing himself after delivering a prep school commencement address. The individual responded, "I'm your son, Mike," to which Reagan replied, "Oh, I didn't recognize you." "What does an actor know about politics?" ?criticizing Ed Asner for opposing American foreign policy "What makes him think a middle-aged actor, who's played with a chimp, could have a future in politics?" -on Clint Eastwood's bid to become mayor of Carmel "A Hippie is someone who walks like Tarzan, looks like Jane and smells like Cheetah." "Facts are stupid things." "How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." " Republicans believe every day is 4th of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15." "The best social program is a productive job for anyone who's willing to work." " We're the party that wants to see an America in which people can still get rich." ------ a few sites: http://www.americanrhetoric.com/top100speechesall.html http://www.ronaldreagan.com/essential/essential.html http://www.ronaldreagan.com/sp_38.html http://progressivetrail.org/articles/040207Kusnet.shtml tip for the day: "Don't use any salt shaker that George H. W. Bush has had access to." RIP and good fucking riddance. From edspecial at digitalrealm.net Sun Jun 6 18:59:53 2004 From: edspecial at digitalrealm.net (Ed Special) Date: Sun Jun 6 14:58:59 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: <20040606214345.17367.qmail@web50107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sunday, June 6, 2004, at 05:43 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > Well, Rich Little was a good impersonator, and samples > of "The First Family Rides Again" would be hard to > tell from the real thing. For something more > olblique, the mid-80's rap group Rock Shock's lone > album had an alternate version of their own "On The > Avenue" that includes, among other things, Reagan > responding to an alien attack. Anyone have the several Reagan U.N. speeches mentioning alien beings? Ed From bt at wfmu.org Sun Jun 6 20:58:00 2004 From: bt at wfmu.org (Brian Turner) Date: Sun Jun 6 16:58:41 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: <20040606214345.17367.qmail@web50107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There's that Violent Femmes short song "Old Mother Reagan" that goes "Old Mother Reagan went to heaven and at the pearly gates he was stopped." There's also an all-blank LP called "the Wit and Wisdom of Ronald Reagan", and that "We Begin Bombing in 5 minutes" 12" whose artist title escapes. Brian On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Paul Smith wrote: > Well, Rich Little was a good impersonator, and samples > of "The First Family Rides Again" would be hard to > tell from the real thing. For something more > olblique, the mid-80's rap group Rock Shock's lone > album had an alternate version of their own "On The > Avenue" that includes, among other things, Reagan > responding to an alien attack. > > > --- "e.rodney. jones" wrote: > > Greetings. > > > > I'm looking for some good recs on audio material of > > "our" now-deceased ex-president, RR. I'm planning to > > incorporate this material into a radio show I'll be > > doing later this week (on KALX in Berkeley CA). > > Anyone > > got any ideas (and sources)? I'm thinking of either > > works that use his voice or straight audio that I > > would be able to use (from all points in his > > career). > > > > I'm especially looking for a copy (in any format) of > > this thing released on LP long ago: "Ronald Reagan > > Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine". Anyone got > > a > > copy of this? > > > > I'm also interested in recs of songs about him, not > > necc. involving his sounds (i.e. Suicidal > > Tendencies' > > "I Shot Reagan," Crucifucks' "Hinckley had a > > Vision," > > DKs, Reagan Youth, etc. Any hip hop? Any *pro* > > Reagan > > music, recordings? > > > > On or off list. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rumori mailing list > > Rumori@detritus.net > > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > > > ===== > I think Patrick Stewart is ad-libbing his commercials for Crestor > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > -- From pan at sensoryresearch.com Sun Jun 6 21:01:05 2004 From: pan at sensoryresearch.com (Pan) Date: Sun Jun 6 17:01:48 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jun 6, 2004, at 7:58 PM, Brian Turner wrote: > > There's that Violent Femmes short song "Old Mother Reagan" that goes > "Old > Mother Reagan went to heaven and at the pearly gates he was stopped." Off of "Blind Leading the Naked". Pan From aleph at aleph-null.net Sun Jun 6 18:02:00 2004 From: aleph at aleph-null.net (niall munnelly) Date: Sun Jun 6 17:02:05 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: References: <20040606214345.17367.qmail@web50107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040607000200.GA7431@pogo.dreamhost.com> there are a few files here: http://www.diymedia.net/collage/truth-reagan.htm -- yours, niall. .. . . . . . . . . . aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence. From bt at wfmu.org Sun Jun 6 21:03:25 2004 From: bt at wfmu.org (Brian Turner) Date: Sun Jun 6 17:04:05 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > There's also an all-blank LP called "the Wit and Wisdom of Ronald Reagan", > and that "We Begin Bombing in 5 minutes" 12" whose artist title escapes. > Oh I remembered, Bonzo Goes To Washington. > Brian > > > On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Paul Smith wrote: > > > Well, Rich Little was a good impersonator, and samples > > of "The First Family Rides Again" would be hard to > > tell from the real thing. For something more > > olblique, the mid-80's rap group Rock Shock's lone > > album had an alternate version of their own "On The > > Avenue" that includes, among other things, Reagan > > responding to an alien attack. > > > > > > --- "e.rodney. jones" wrote: > > > Greetings. > > > > > > I'm looking for some good recs on audio material of > > > "our" now-deceased ex-president, RR. I'm planning to > > > incorporate this material into a radio show I'll be > > > doing later this week (on KALX in Berkeley CA). > > > Anyone > > > got any ideas (and sources)? I'm thinking of either > > > works that use his voice or straight audio that I > > > would be able to use (from all points in his > > > career). > > > > > > I'm especially looking for a copy (in any format) of > > > this thing released on LP long ago: "Ronald Reagan > > > Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine". Anyone got > > > a > > > copy of this? > > > > > > I'm also interested in recs of songs about him, not > > > necc. involving his sounds (i.e. Suicidal > > > Tendencies' > > > "I Shot Reagan," Crucifucks' "Hinckley had a > > > Vision," > > > DKs, Reagan Youth, etc. Any hip hop? Any *pro* > > > Reagan > > > music, recordings? > > > > > > On or off list. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rumori mailing list > > > Rumori@detritus.net > > > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > > > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > > > > > > ===== > > I think Patrick Stewart is ad-libbing his commercials for Crestor > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rumori mailing list > > Rumori@detritus.net > > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > > > > -- From julian.brooks at virgin.net Mon Jun 7 02:08:20 2004 From: julian.brooks at virgin.net (julian.brooks) Date: Sun Jun 6 17:08:40 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock References: <20040606200642.72608.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001d01c44c23$8d4b86c0$814d0352@jbpc> Any hip hop? Maybe; I shot reagan- non phixion & necro. Regards, Jb From pan at sensoryresearch.com Sun Jun 6 21:42:15 2004 From: pan at sensoryresearch.com (Pan) Date: Sun Jun 6 17:42:55 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: <001d01c44c23$8d4b86c0$814d0352@jbpc> References: <20040606200642.72608.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> <001d01c44c23$8d4b86c0$814d0352@jbpc> Message-ID: <8582B0D1-B81B-11D8-8353-000A95EB7F7A@sensoryresearch.com> A real good one -- and actually an example of video jamming, is "RayGun" by Nation of Sheep. This was around 1984 or 1985. The video features a lot reagan footage spliced with the Stars Wars System designs animations. I'll try to hunt it down so others can use it. I think I have it on a beta tape. Pan From ddixon at wi.rr.com Mon Jun 7 09:34:36 2004 From: ddixon at wi.rr.com (David Dixon) Date: Mon Jun 7 06:35:50 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock References: Message-ID: <002f01c44c94$2d5914a0$0bd9a718@wi.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Turner" To: "Detritus discussion list." Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Rumori] Reagan Rock > > There's also an all-blank LP called "the Wit and Wisdom of Ronald Reagan", > > and that "We Begin Bombing in 5 minutes" 12" whose artist title escapes. > > > Oh I remembered, Bonzo Goes To Washington. aka Jerry Harrison of Talking Heads fame. D^2 From sarahell at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 7 11:18:39 2004 From: sarahell at sbcglobal.net (Sarah Lockhart) Date: Mon Jun 7 10:18:41 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock Message-ID: Camper Van Beethoven "Sweethearts" (Key Lime Pie) From carrie at stayfreemagazine.org Mon Jun 7 14:24:13 2004 From: carrie at stayfreemagazine.org (Carrie McLaren) Date: Mon Jun 7 10:24:21 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a HILARIOUS mp3 about drug use that someone made by cutting up recordings of Ron & Nancy Reagan. I need to find it, but I'll post it online (probably on the illegal-art.org site) as soon as I do... -- Carrie McLaren WEB & GRAPHIC DESIGN http://www.carriemclaren.com ph: 718.398.9324 fax: 207.221.9349 From carrie at stayfreemagazine.org Mon Jun 7 14:26:19 2004 From: carrie at stayfreemagazine.org (Carrie McLaren) Date: Mon Jun 7 10:26:44 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock Message-ID: whoops, nevermind. I see it's already available at that link Niall posted: http://www.diymedia.net/collage/truth-reagan.htm -- Carrie McLaren WEB & GRAPHIC DESIGN http://www.carriemclaren.com ph: 718.398.9324 fax: 207.221.9349 From aleph at aleph-null.net Mon Jun 7 11:34:47 2004 From: aleph at aleph-null.net (niall munnelly) Date: Mon Jun 7 10:34:54 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040607173447.GC20115@pogo.dreamhost.com> On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 01:24:13PM -0400, Carrie McLaren wrote: > > I have a HILARIOUS mp3 about drug use that someone made by cutting up > recordings of Ron & Nancy Reagan. I need to find it, but I'll post it > online (probably on the illegal-art.org site) as soon as I do... http://www.diymedia.net/collage/truth-reagan.htm they do one better and provide the video - it looks a *lot* nicer than my crappy 5th generation vhs bootleg. -- yours, niall. .. . . . . . . . . . aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence. From darren at alienated.net Mon Jun 7 14:43:28 2004 From: darren at alienated.net (Darren Wershler-Henry) Date: Mon Jun 7 10:43:36 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: <20040606200642.72608.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The Ramones, "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" DOA, "Fucked Up Ronnie" Frankie Goes to Hollywood, "Two Tribes" Minutemen, "If Reagan Played Disco" Loudon Wainright III, "Talking Ronald Reagan Blues" On 6/6/04 4:06 PM, "e.rodney. jones" wrote: > Greetings. > > I'm looking for some good recs on audio material of > "our" now-deceased ex-president, RR. I'm planning to > incorporate this material into a radio show I'll be > doing later this week (on KALX in Berkeley CA). Anyone > got any ideas (and sources)? I'm thinking of either > works that use his voice or straight audio that I > would be able to use (from all points in his career). > > I'm especially looking for a copy (in any format) of > this thing released on LP long ago: "Ronald Reagan > Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine". Anyone got a > copy of this? > > I'm also interested in recs of songs about him, not > necc. involving his sounds (i.e. Suicidal Tendencies' > "I Shot Reagan," Crucifucks' "Hinckley had a Vision," > DKs, Reagan Youth, etc. Any hip hop? Any *pro* Reagan > music, recordings? > > On or off list. > > Thanks > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ --------------------- Darren Wershler-Henry darren@alienated.net "George Jones is a funky motherfucker." --Ray Charles From discosammy at yahoo.com Mon Jun 7 12:07:33 2004 From: discosammy at yahoo.com (Samuel Carey) Date: Mon Jun 7 11:07:40 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Rumori Posts blocked from area man In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040607180733.76857.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone else subscribe to rumori through a Yahoo address? Any clue why Yahoo thinks rumori is spam? I've been through the list of blocked addresses and not one jumps out... i thought people were going months without posting until i found a ton of rumori posts in my bulk mail folder. Thanks in advance. ===== For the best selection of pre-owned septic tanks visit: Mediatronic Research Laboratory __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From stalliongsta at yahoo.com Mon Jun 7 12:17:12 2004 From: stalliongsta at yahoo.com (stAllio! the original wanksta) Date: Mon Jun 7 11:17:19 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Rumori Posts blocked from area man In-Reply-To: <20040607180733.76857.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040607181712.51415.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> --- Samuel Carey wrote: > Does anyone else subscribe to rumori through a Yahoo > address? > > Any clue why Yahoo thinks rumori is spam? I've been > through the list of blocked addresses and not one > jumps out... > > i thought people were going months without posting > until i found a ton of rumori posts in my bulk mail > folder. spam is such a problem these days that yahoo's filter can be a bit restrictive. it can be inconvenient, but probably better than getting all that spam in your inbox. you can set up a filter so that future rumori messages will not go to bulk mail. in yahoo mail, click "mail options" then click "filters". then, if you click the "add" button, you can create a rule so that any email with "rumori" in the subject line will be sent directly to your inbox. be sure to click "add filter" when you're done. ===== "Good stuff, but exactly the kind of thing I like but can not sell." http://www.animalswithinanimals.com http://badtastesucks.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From discosammy at yahoo.com Mon Jun 7 13:16:26 2004 From: discosammy at yahoo.com (Samuel Carey) Date: Mon Jun 7 12:16:31 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Rumori Posts blocked from area man In-Reply-To: <20040607181712.51415.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040607191626.94529.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> thanks for the help... i didn't even you could add filters to yahoo! invaluable... thanks again. s --- stAllio! the original wanksta wrote: > in yahoo mail, click "mail options" then click > "filters". ===== For the best selection of pre-owned septic tanks visit: Mediatronic Research Laboratory __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From pan at sensoryresearch.com Mon Jun 7 17:32:04 2004 From: pan at sensoryresearch.com (Pan) Date: Mon Jun 7 13:32:40 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: <001d01c44c23$8d4b86c0$814d0352@jbpc> References: <20040606200642.72608.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> <001d01c44c23$8d4b86c0$814d0352@jbpc> Message-ID: My all time favorite anti-reagan song ever: The Crucifucks' "Hinkley Had a Vision" http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~pan/misc/Crucifucks- Hinkley_Had_a_Vision.mp3 If anyone wants a higher rez version, ask. A good spoken word piece is Jello Biafra's "What Reagan Didn't Know" off of No More Cocoons. The ending is particularly powerful. Oh yeah, "10 Most Wanted List" as performed by Eugene Chadbourne. Again, really powerful. Ahhh.... how the memories of the 80's are flooding back. It was the worst of times, and it was the worst of times. Not that things are much better. Just different. Pan From aleph at aleph-null.net Mon Jun 7 14:50:40 2004 From: aleph at aleph-null.net (niall munnelly) Date: Mon Jun 7 13:50:43 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040607205039.GB15166@pogo.dreamhost.com> there's also a track by mid-90s industrial goons Cycloon, whose "oppressive measures" has a long sample of reagan bumbling a speech (not quite colonel sanders bumbling, but bumbling all the same). -- yours, niall. .. . . . . . . . . . aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence. From edspecial at digitalrealm.net Mon Jun 7 18:00:22 2004 From: edspecial at digitalrealm.net (Ed Special) Date: Mon Jun 7 13:59:27 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: <20040607205039.GB15166@pogo.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: couldn't resist: http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~special/images/Reagan_the_killers.jpg Ed From kembrew-mcleod at uiowa.edu Mon Jun 7 16:59:39 2004 From: kembrew-mcleod at uiowa.edu (kembrew mcleod) Date: Mon Jun 7 13:59:45 2004 Subject: [Rumori] hinkley In-Reply-To: References: <20040606200642.72608.qmail@web52309.mail.yahoo.com> <001d01c44c23$8d4b86c0$814d0352@jbpc> Message-ID: <1086641979.40c4d73bca10d@webmail1.its.uiowa.edu> my favorite hinkley quote is: "i prefer to think of myself as a poet first and a would-be assassin last." Quoting Pan : > My all time favorite anti-reagan song ever: > > The Crucifucks' "Hinkley Had a Vision" > > http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~pan/misc/Crucifucks- > Hinkley_Had_a_Vision.mp3 > > If anyone wants a higher rez version, ask. > > A good spoken word piece is Jello Biafra's "What Reagan Didn't Know" > off of No More Cocoons. The ending is particularly powerful. Oh yeah, > "10 Most Wanted List" as performed by Eugene Chadbourne. Again, really > powerful. > > Ahhh.... how the memories of the 80's are flooding back. It was the > worst of times, and it was the worst of times. Not that things are much > better. Just different. > > Pan > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > ******************* kembrew mcleod 1218 college st. iowa city, ia 52245 kembrew-mcleod@uiowa.edu 319-341-3583 "What is corporate fraud? Corporate fraud is what happens when cool, indie fraud loses its cred and becomes totally lame." - Jon Stewart From edspecial at digitalrealm.net Tue Jun 8 07:22:48 2004 From: edspecial at digitalrealm.net (Ed Special) Date: Tue Jun 8 03:21:55 2004 Subject: [Rumori] indisposed Message-ID: compose suppose oppose depose indisposed repose decompose From steev at detritus.net Wed Jun 9 01:13:29 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Wed Jun 9 00:13:34 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Rumori Posts blocked from area man In-Reply-To: <20040607181712.51415.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: on Mon, 7 Jun 2004 stAllio! the original wanksta told me: ->spam is such a problem these days that yahoo's filter can be a bit ->restrictive. it can be inconvenient, but probably better than getting ->all that spam in your inbox. you can set up a filter so that future ->rumori messages will not go to bulk mail. -> ->in yahoo mail, click "mail options" then click "filters". then, if you ->click the "add" button, you can create a rule so that any email with ->"rumori" in the subject line will be sent directly to your inbox. be ->sure to click "add filter" when you're done. I've noticed this repeatedly with yahoo. I've also tried contacting them many times to learn how to get off their list, but they never reply. I've even heard from friends with yahoo accounts that even after they mark email from me as not spam or not to be blocked, later emails from me still goes into their bulk folders. lame yahoo... smh Steev Hise . steev@detritus.net . http://detritus.net/steev new blog: http://steev.hise.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- "There's something basically at least human and even honest about killing..." -Chris Wood (comparing advertising to war) ----------------------------------------------------------------- From edspecial at digitalrealm.net Thu Jun 10 05:29:51 2004 From: edspecial at digitalrealm.net (Ed Special) Date: Thu Jun 10 01:28:58 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Ashcroft Fear Remix Message-ID: <57758864-BAB8-11D8-8FA0-00039368C928@digitalrealm.net> You have to see this: "The Ashcroft Fear Remix" from filmmaker Jason Woliner http://www.musicforamerica.org/node/view/23215 From mattdavignon at hotmail.com Mon Jun 7 15:44:32 2004 From: mattdavignon at hotmail.com (matt davignon) Date: Thu Jun 10 07:13:21 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock Message-ID: ...While the lyrics are not about Reagan directly, you could play "Land of Confusion" by Genesis, and watch the music video memories come back. It'd be even better if you could get a version with the Reagan banter from the video. >From: Darren Wershler-Henry > >The Ramones, "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" >DOA, "Fucked Up Ronnie" >Frankie Goes to Hollywood, "Two Tribes" >Minutemen, "If Reagan Played Disco" >Loudon Wainright III, "Talking Ronald Reagan Blues" > >On 6/6/04 4:06 PM, "e.rodney. jones" wrote: > > > Greetings. > > > > I'm looking for some good recs on audio material of > > "our" now-deceased ex-president, RR. I'm planning to > > incorporate this material into a radio show I'll be > > doing later this week (on KALX in Berkeley CA). Anyone > > got any ideas (and sources)? I'm thinking of either > > works that use his voice or straight audio that I > > would be able to use (from all points in his career). > > > > I'm especially looking for a copy (in any format) of > > this thing released on LP long ago: "Ronald Reagan > > Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine". Anyone got a > > copy of this? > > > > I'm also interested in recs of songs about him, not > > necc. involving his sounds (i.e. Suicidal Tendencies' > > "I Shot Reagan," Crucifucks' "Hinckley had a Vision," > > DKs, Reagan Youth, etc. Any hip hop? Any *pro* Reagan > > music, recordings? > > > > On or off list. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rumori mailing list > > Rumori@detritus.net > > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > > >--------------------- > >Darren Wershler-Henry >darren@alienated.net > >"George Jones is a funky motherfucker." >--Ray Charles > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Rumori mailing list >Rumori@detritus.net >http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori >older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ _________________________________________________________________ Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ From darren at alienated.net Thu Jun 10 11:20:59 2004 From: darren at alienated.net (Darren Wershler-Henry) Date: Thu Jun 10 07:21:08 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Other people also seem to be working the Reagan Rock meme. Here's something from music writer Carl Wilson's site, which includes the longest list of Reagan Rock I've seen so far: http://www.zoilus.com/documents/news/2004/000117.shtml On 6/7/04 5:44 PM, "matt davignon" wrote: > ...While the lyrics are not about Reagan directly, you could play "Land of > Confusion" by Genesis, and watch the music video memories come back. It'd be > even better if you could get a version with the Reagan banter from the > video. > > >> From: Darren Wershler-Henry >> >> The Ramones, "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" >> DOA, "Fucked Up Ronnie" >> Frankie Goes to Hollywood, "Two Tribes" >> Minutemen, "If Reagan Played Disco" >> Loudon Wainright III, "Talking Ronald Reagan Blues" >> >> On 6/6/04 4:06 PM, "e.rodney. jones" wrote: >> >>> Greetings. >>> >>> I'm looking for some good recs on audio material of >>> "our" now-deceased ex-president, RR. I'm planning to >>> incorporate this material into a radio show I'll be >>> doing later this week (on KALX in Berkeley CA). Anyone >>> got any ideas (and sources)? I'm thinking of either >>> works that use his voice or straight audio that I >>> would be able to use (from all points in his career). >>> >>> I'm especially looking for a copy (in any format) of >>> this thing released on LP long ago: "Ronald Reagan >>> Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine". Anyone got a >>> copy of this? >>> >>> I'm also interested in recs of songs about him, not >>> necc. involving his sounds (i.e. Suicidal Tendencies' >>> "I Shot Reagan," Crucifucks' "Hinckley had a Vision," >>> DKs, Reagan Youth, etc. Any hip hop? Any *pro* Reagan >>> music, recordings? >>> >>> On or off list. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. >>> http://messenger.yahoo.com/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rumori mailing list >>> Rumori@detritus.net >>> http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori >>> older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ >> >> >> --------------------- >> >> Darren Wershler-Henry >> darren@alienated.net >> >> "George Jones is a funky motherfucker." >> --Ray Charles >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rumori mailing list >> Rumori@detritus.net >> http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori >> older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN > House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ --------------------- Darren Wershler-Henry darren@alienated.net "George Jones is a funky motherfucker." --Ray Charles From carrie at stayfreemagazine.org Thu Jun 10 11:18:41 2004 From: carrie at stayfreemagazine.org (Carrie McLaren) Date: Thu Jun 10 07:32:50 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ken Freedman played tons of Reagan-related music on his show on WFMU yesterday (Wednesday). You can find it in the archives at http://www.wfmu.org -- Carrie McLaren Editor, Stay Free! 718.398.9324 www.stayfreemagazine.org www.illegal-art.org From steev at detritus.net Thu Jun 10 09:54:53 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (steev@detritus.net) Date: Thu Jun 10 08:54:59 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Detritus Update: Monolith: a software experiment with copyright Message-ID: (((( Detritus Update: Monolith: a software experiment with copyright )))) June 10, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://detritus.net/blog/archives/000061.html -- Powered by Movable Type Version 2.661 http://www.movabletype.org/ From darren at alienated.net Thu Jun 10 13:11:07 2004 From: darren at alienated.net (Darren Wershler-Henry) Date: Thu Jun 10 09:11:21 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Detritus Update: Monolith: a software experiment with copyright In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here's the devil's advocate position on Monolith: http://www.corante.com/copyfight/archives/004291.html June 09, 2004 Monolith - An Uninteresting Experiment in Copyright BoingBoing links to a new "copyright experiment" (Monolith and digital copyright). The software project, called Monolith, takes two digital files and XOR's them (what the author refers to as "munging"), creating a third file. The author calls the two input files "element" and "basis." I think many people might call them "plaintext" and "key." The output file (aka the "monolith" file) would be called the "cryptotext." The conceit of the concept is that neither the cryptotext nor the key is copyrighted. Thus, it should be legal to distribute both. Otherwise, the author of Monolith claims, everything is copyrighted and nothing can be distributed because there is always a number such that, if XOR'd with another number, will produce a copyrighted work. This argument is not new and it not terrible interesting. It basically postulates that any encrypted transmission of information is actually not a transmission of information at all. On 6/10/04 11:54 AM, "steev@detritus.net" wrote: > (((( Detritus Update: Monolith: a software experiment with copyright )))) > > June 10, 2004 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > http://detritus.net/blog/archives/000061.html > > > --------------------- Darren Wershler-Henry darren@alienated.net "George Jones is a funky motherfucker." --Ray Charles From discosammy at yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 12:38:52 2004 From: discosammy at yahoo.com (Samuel Carey) Date: Thu Jun 10 11:38:56 2004 Subject: [Rumori] computer help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040610183852.86568.qmail@web11509.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if there are any gearheads on the list who'd like to share some knowledge, but any help would be much appreciated. wondering if anyone can recommend a the best cheapeast sound card for a very modest computer recording environment... i'd like to take a step up from the creative labs live and audigy cards, but don't really know anything about specs. i can compare things relatively but wouldn't know good bench marks or anything like that... I aspire to work with midi as well as digital audio...(recording 1 track at a time is plenty... i dont' know enough musicians to make multi-track more than extravagance)should i approach these seperately or an all-in-one? any suggestions? I can sort through things such as which inputs i'd prefer. Beyond those kind of intial questions, I don't know where to start. I can find a great reviews for just about anything but i'm not smart enough to sort out the bombast and bullshit... again, any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. many thanks. For the best selection of pre-owned septic tanks visit: Mediatronic Research Laboratory --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger From ddixon at wi.rr.com Thu Jun 10 14:55:02 2004 From: ddixon at wi.rr.com (David Dixon) Date: Thu Jun 10 11:58:56 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock References: Message-ID: <002701c44f1c$70b4eb40$0bd9a718@wi.rr.com> I played a bunch of Reagan material on my radio show, "The Sublime and Ridiculous Show," Monday night on Radio Freedom (http://www.radio-freedom.com) Simpsons, The - Rappin' Ronnie Reagan Primadonnas - Reagan's Dead Lowell Shyette - Ronald Reagan, Mr President (a pro-Reagan tune, can be downloaded here: http://www.lowellsmusic.com/audio/mp3/reagan.mp3) Unknown Artist - american terrorist Violent Femmes - Old Mother Reagan Edward C Hayes - The Ronald Reagan Song (from the 365 Days Project) Loudon Wainwright III - Talking Ronald Reagan Blues (Jasper Carrot Show 1987) Dead Kennedys - We've Got A Bigger Problem Now Audio Massage - I Dream of Reagan Robin Williams - Reagan Rattus - Rockabilly Reagan s?tlimpa - on the street again - Ronald Reagan (Swedish punk) Cliff Roth - The Reagans Speak Out on Drugs (excerpt) D.R.I. - Reaganomics Bonzo Goes to Washington (Jerry Harrison) - 5 Minutes Ramones - Bonzo Goes To Bitburg Reathel Bean & The DBC - Rapmaster Ronnie Prince - Ronnie, Talk To Russia Richard Belzer - Ronald Reagan In Outer Space Shattered Faith - reagan country Men's Recovery Project - Ronald Reagan NOFX - Reagan Sucks Fartz - Battle Hymn Of Ronnie Reagan The Minutemen - If Reagan Played Disco Austin Lounge Lizards - Ballad Of Ronald Reagan Non Phixion Feat. Necrodamus - I Shot Reagan Doug Kahn - Ronald Reagan Old Skull - Homeless (which ends with a nine-year-old screaming, "I HATE YOU RONALD REAGAN!") D^2 http://www.stark-effect.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Wershler-Henry" To: "Rumori" Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Rumori] Reagan Rock > Other people also seem to be working the Reagan Rock meme. Here's something > from music writer Carl Wilson's site, which includes the longest list of > Reagan Rock I've seen so far: > > http://www.zoilus.com/documents/news/2004/000117.shtml > > > > On 6/7/04 5:44 PM, "matt davignon" wrote: > > > ...While the lyrics are not about Reagan directly, you could play "Land of > > Confusion" by Genesis, and watch the music video memories come back. It'd be > > even better if you could get a version with the Reagan banter from the > > video. > > > > > >> From: Darren Wershler-Henry > >> > >> The Ramones, "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" > >> DOA, "Fucked Up Ronnie" > >> Frankie Goes to Hollywood, "Two Tribes" > >> Minutemen, "If Reagan Played Disco" > >> Loudon Wainright III, "Talking Ronald Reagan Blues" > >> > >> On 6/6/04 4:06 PM, "e.rodney. jones" wrote: > >> > >>> Greetings. > >>> > >>> I'm looking for some good recs on audio material of > >>> "our" now-deceased ex-president, RR. I'm planning to > >>> incorporate this material into a radio show I'll be > >>> doing later this week (on KALX in Berkeley CA). Anyone > >>> got any ideas (and sources)? I'm thinking of either > >>> works that use his voice or straight audio that I > >>> would be able to use (from all points in his career). > >>> > >>> I'm especially looking for a copy (in any format) of > >>> this thing released on LP long ago: "Ronald Reagan > >>> Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine". Anyone got a > >>> copy of this? > >>> > >>> I'm also interested in recs of songs about him, not > >>> necc. involving his sounds (i.e. Suicidal Tendencies' > >>> "I Shot Reagan," Crucifucks' "Hinckley had a Vision," > >>> DKs, Reagan Youth, etc. Any hip hop? Any *pro* Reagan > >>> music, recordings? > >>> > >>> On or off list. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> __________________________________ > >>> Do you Yahoo!? > >>> Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > >>> http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Rumori mailing list > >>> Rumori@detritus.net > >>> http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > >>> older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > >> > >> > >> --------------------- > >> > >> Darren Wershler-Henry > >> darren@alienated.net > >> > >> "George Jones is a funky motherfucker." > >> --Ray Charles > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rumori mailing list > >> Rumori@detritus.net > >> http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > >> older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN > > House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rumori mailing list > > Rumori@detritus.net > > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > > > --------------------- > > Darren Wershler-Henry > darren@alienated.net > > "George Jones is a funky motherfucker." > --Ray Charles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ From discosammy at yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 13:04:59 2004 From: discosammy at yahoo.com (Samuel Carey) Date: Thu Jun 10 12:05:06 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: <002701c44f1c$70b4eb40$0bd9a718@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040610190459.59156.qmail@web11510.mail.yahoo.com> I had a friend who went to UW-Madison and hung with the old skull crew... anyone have clue what happened to them? Old Skull - Homeless (which ends with a nine-year-old screaming, "I HATE YOU RONALD REAGAN!") For the best selection of pre-owned septic tanks visit: Mediatronic Research Laboratory --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger From aleph at aleph-null.net Thu Jun 10 13:05:11 2004 From: aleph at aleph-null.net (niall munnelly) Date: Thu Jun 10 12:05:46 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Reagan Rock In-Reply-To: <002701c44f1c$70b4eb40$0bd9a718@wi.rr.com> References: <002701c44f1c$70b4eb40$0bd9a718@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: <20040610190510.GA21296@pogo.dreamhost.com> there's also a song from... i think it was "who's the boss?" we're not gonna take it we're gonna make a fuss 'til reagan reagan reagan listens to us! bush was actually president at the time, but i think the singer wanted to preserve the cadence. maybe i shouldn't have posted this. i'll have to listen to _shark bait_ again, but christian lunch, who moved to berlin and vowed never to come back until reagan was out of office, prolly wrote a ditty or two referring to the gipper. -- yours, niall. .. . . . . . . . . . aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence. http://www.aleph-null.net From mattdavignon at hotmail.com Thu Jun 10 15:34:03 2004 From: mattdavignon at hotmail.com (matt davignon) Date: Thu Jun 10 14:34:40 2004 Subject: [Rumori] computer help Message-ID: Hmmm... I recently "downgraded" from a 'professional' sound card (Gadget Labs Wave/4 - originally $200, now discontinued) to a SoundBlaster Live5.1 (roughly $50), and have been pretty happy with it. The Gadget Labs card was meant to be used only for pro-audio - it didn't work with pretty standard applications like playing cd's off the cd-rom drive or many video games. Now that I have a new computer with a SoundBlaster card, I haven't noticed any decrease in sound quality or abilities or anything. I don't know much about digital pro-audio, but from my limited knowledge I'd suggest putting the $ towards some other part of your signal chain. If it were me, I'd buy a better 'mixer before the sound card'. I'm currently using my first 4-track cassette recorder as a mixer. >From: Samuel Carey > >I don't know if there are any gearheads on the list who'd like to share >some knowledge, but any help would be much appreciated. > >wondering if anyone can recommend a the best cheapeast sound card for a >very modest computer recording environment... > >i'd like to take a step up from the creative labs live and audigy cards, >but don't really know anything about specs. i can compare things >relatively but wouldn't know good bench marks or anything like that... > > >I aspire to work with midi as well as digital audio...(recording 1 track at >a time is plenty... i dont' know enough musicians to make multi-track more >than extravagance)should i approach these seperately or an all-in-one? > >any suggestions? I can sort through things such as which inputs i'd prefer. >Beyond those kind of intial questions, I don't know where to start. > >I can find a great reviews for just about anything but i'm not smart enough >to sort out the bombast and bullshit... > >again, any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. > >many thanks. > _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ From edspecial at digitalrealm.net Thu Jun 10 20:52:25 2004 From: edspecial at digitalrealm.net (Ed Special) Date: Thu Jun 10 16:51:32 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Deja vu Message-ID: <396A22DA-BB39-11D8-8FA0-00039368C928@digitalrealm.net> Deja vu http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~special/images/ %20hindeburg_s_funeral_procession__7.8.34.jpg From steev at detritus.net Thu Jun 10 21:15:37 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Thu Jun 10 20:15:41 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Detritus Update: Monolith: a software experiment with copyright In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on Thu, 10 Jun 2004 Darren Wershler-Henry told me: ->Here's the devil's advocate position on Monolith: -> ->http://www.corante.com/copyfight/archives/004291.html lots of interesting comments on that item too: http://www.corante.com/copyfight/archives/004291.html#comments I think the most interesting thing about Monolith is the author's discussion of bringing home taping back into the home. if the transmission is not infringement, but rather, the decryption is, then we have a different situation than what prosecutors currently are assuming. of course it's all sort of unrealistic, since as the author notes in the beginning, and various commentators keep restating, this is "logical gymnastics", a world quite apart from that in which the Law operates. smh -> -> ->June 09, 2004 ->Monolith - An Uninteresting Experiment in Copyright -> ->BoingBoing links to a new "copyright experiment" (Monolith and digital ->copyright). The software project, called Monolith, takes two digital files ->and XOR's them (what the author refers to as "munging"), creating a third ->file. The author calls the two input files "element" and "basis." I think ->many people might call them "plaintext" and "key." The output file (aka the ->"monolith" file) would be called the "cryptotext." -> ->The conceit of the concept is that neither the cryptotext nor the key is ->copyrighted. Thus, it should be legal to distribute both. Otherwise, the ->author of Monolith claims, everything is copyrighted and nothing can be ->distributed because there is always a number such that, if XOR'd with ->another number, will produce a copyrighted work. -> ->This argument is not new and it not terrible interesting. It basically ->postulates that any encrypted transmission of information is actually not a ->transmission of information at all. -> ->On 6/10/04 11:54 AM, "steev@detritus.net" wrote: -> ->> (((( Detritus Update: Monolith: a software experiment with copyright )))) ->> ->> June 10, 2004 ->> ->> ->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ->> ->> http://detritus.net/blog/archives/000061.html ->> ->> ->> -> -> ->--------------------- -> ->Darren Wershler-Henry ->darren@alienated.net -> ->"George Jones is a funky motherfucker." ->--Ray Charles -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> ->_______________________________________________ ->Rumori mailing list ->Rumori@detritus.net ->http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori ->older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ -> Steev Hise . steev@detritus.net . http://detritus.net/steev new blog: http://steev.hise.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- "If you are smart enough to be a sysadmin, you are smart enough NOT to be a sysadmin." -Mykle Hansen ----------------------------------------------------------------- From postconsumer01 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 11 02:56:25 2004 From: postconsumer01 at yahoo.com (Jon Nelson) Date: Fri Jun 11 01:56:29 2004 Subject: [Rumori] The Plagiarist on Some Assembly Required - and new collage label Message-ID: <20040611085625.21619.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> hi rumori! Tune in to Some Assembly Required this Saturday for an interview with Owen O'toole - He's the man behind the Plagiarist, as well as Waferface, and he performs with the band Wet Gate as well. I interviewed him way back in 2001 around the time he was in town with Wet Gate (along with Steev Hise, John Oswald, The Tape-beatles and Wobbly, for a series of shows I organized for a local film festival) and I'm JUST NOW getting around to airing it. I think I burned out around that time and have only been catching my second wind this past year or so. anyway - Tune in to hear a little bit about another one of us - this Saturday, 2-3PM (CST), on Some Assembly Required - radiok.org to listen also, speaking of sound collage artists who do radio and start their own record labels - I'm starting my own record label. a small one, but three records all at once to start. The first is by a couple of brothers from Minnesota who sent me a tape of some collage they made on their dual cassette deck - they're called the Coherent Enocherence. The second is by an artist you might know, if you've perused Illegal Art's online webshop - also originally from Minnesota: Splatt. "World of Splatt" is a best-of compilation, with tracks from the nine or ten self released albums he's put out himself. And the third is a live CD by my band - Escape Mechanism. After the debut CD in 1999, I formed a band and played out around minneapolis a bit. Our last performance was at the aforementioned film festival in 2001. I collected the recordings from all of our live shows and picked my favorite moments and put together a live CD. We called ourselves Cast of Thousands with Escape Mechanism. These are all available for purchase at www.recombinations.com, and very soon they will also be available at Illegal Art's webshop as well. Let me know if you do radio and you want a promo copy of any of these. I'll send it off asap. So tune in for Owen Otoole on SAR this Saturday, June 12 at 2pm, and while you're listening, visit my new label's website at www.recombinations.com thanks for the plug, jon nelson www.PostConsumerProductions.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From fullernick at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jun 11 19:22:33 2004 From: fullernick at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Gratiplis[t]a=20Sound=20System?=) Date: Fri Jun 11 10:23:07 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Blurry and Wide [london] Message-ID: <20040611172233.55514.qmail@web53102.mail.yahoo.com> > BLURRY AND WIDE > > Taking sensory scissors to the virtual net of > censorship and copyright > > Playing in the commons with dezpalazed discs and > looted musics > > > DJs Anomie & Zacks > > Films/visuals/gifts > > 3-8pm > > 20/06/04 > > Flyer > http://anomie.omweb.org/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/album06/Untitled_1_symbols.swf > > Free (for want of a better definition) > > The Foundry, Great Eastern St, EC1 London UK > http://www.foundry.tv > > Gratiplis[t]a Sound System > http://anomie.omweb.org/modules/news/ ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! 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Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From praemedia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 14 12:04:04 2004 From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia) Date: Mon Jun 14 11:04:39 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Praemedia News for June 2004 Message-ID: <20040614180404.11716.qmail@web51603.mail.yahoo.com> Praemedia News for June, 2004 Ye Olde Shoppe Well, we’ve finally gone and done it. After a few months of collecting some great CDs, and a few more months of Lance struggling desperately with his limited HTML skills to come up with something reasonable, we have completed building a brand new WEBSHOP. Not only do we carry our own Praemedia releases, but also releases from independent labels all over the world which currently fascinate us, including Flyrec, Improvised Music from Japan, Post-Concrete, Cycling 74, Accretions, Headz, Cubic Music and many, many more. Check it out at http://shop.praemedia.com Magic Maple, all and sundry Blevin Blectum’s ‘Magic Maple’ is going....well, like maple syrup. Weddings,computer crashes, volcanoes and other natural disasters have delayed its release, but we’re coming close folks. We’ll let you know when it is all ready. The new disc and dvd by Sagan is coming along fabulously as well, and should be released sometime before the year is out by Vague Terrain. Speaking (vaguely) of friends and family, cruise on over to http://brainwashed.com/matmos/news.html for some beautiful MP3s of Matmos in collaboration with Sagan, Wobbly, Thomas Dimuzio and many more. Jiffy Scuttler JIFFY SCUTTLER, the new monthly music series in San Francisco curated by Blevin Blectum, Lesser, Sean Rooney and Lance Grabmiller is going strong. The last Friday of every month at the RX gallery....oh hell, just go here - http://jiffyscuttler.praemedia.com for all the ever changing information. So far we’ve welcomed Carl Stone, Pepito, The Dick Slessig Combo, The Blithe Sons, Wobbly and Tim Perkis, with so much more to come! On June 25th, we’ll host William Winnant, Skizmatic and Circuit73 and coming up on July 30th will be Hrvatski, Kendra Juul and Philip Sherburne. Watch the JiffyScuttler website for all the latest news. Stars Like Fleas The new Stars Like Fleas website is looking fabulous! Check it out at http://slf.praemedia.com. Also, be sure to check out the crazy interview in Splendidzine (http://www.splendidezine.com/features/slf/) and Shannon Fields’ amazing ‘vision’ for the Diagram sound issue (http://thediagram.com/3_6/) which was recently mentioned in the Wire. Somewhere in the bowels of Brooklyn a new Stars Like Fleas album is taking shape. In the meantime, never pass up an opportunity to see Shannon Fields in rock-star guise as the guitarist for The Silent League (http://www.thesilentleague.com/). Tim Perkis Over the last few months, Tim has been playing fascinating duets all over the bay area with our good friend Wobbly. Rumor has it that some of this material will see the light of day as part of an expanded re-release of Tim’s “Perkolator” (originally released as a limited edition CDR in 1999 by Limited Sedition - http://www.limitedsedition.com/). Enjoy! Lance Grabmiller www.praemedia.com shop.praemedia.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From david at personify.tv Mon Jun 14 12:12:16 2004 From: david at personify.tv (David Goldschmidt) Date: Mon Jun 14 11:14:20 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Fw: RHIZOME_RAW: conference next week on IP, fair use, etc. Message-ID: <010c01c4523b$206fea50$2253a943@userzwr59olfli> fyi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Garnett" To: Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 10:14 AM Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: conference next week on IP, fair use, etc. > > hey, I'll be attending this one-day conference next Friday, June 18th in > Philly: > > Knowledge Held Hostage? Scholarly versus Corporate Rights in the Digital Age > http://www.knowledgehostage.org/ > > if anyone on the list plans to be there, gimme a shout beforehand. In any > case I'll try to get together a report to post... > > JG > + > -> post: list@rhizome.org > -> questions: info@rhizome.org > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support > -> visit: on Fridays the Rhizome.org web site is open to non-members > + > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php > > From pl1x at earthlink.net Thu Jun 17 10:23:06 2004 From: pl1x at earthlink.net (PeterALopez) Date: Thu Jun 17 06:23:13 2004 Subject: [Rumori] %20 & Sen. Orrin Hatch & Overpeer - Uniting Everyday Internet Hereos Message-ID: <15190330.1087478589192.JavaMail.root@thecount.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Since Trap Door is off INDUCEing ACTs (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/001631.php), was gonna wait but who gives a shit, here is a future of music.... w o n d e r f u l %20 & Senator Orrin Hatch & Overpeer Title: Uniting Everyday Internet Heroes w/ Freedom's Glitch Location: File Name: %20&SenOrrinHatch&Overpeer-UnitingEverydayInternetHeroes.mp3 ReadMe: Description: As a part time music fan and full time corporate shilling whore, it is my duty to promote the progress of the glorious combination of the arts and sciences. In this venture, the focus is on the pioneers of internet music. Internet music today is defined by political & corporate concerns. No two artists alive define this better then Senator Orrin Hatch & Digital Media Protector, Overpeer. Senator Orrin Hatch's pluckey nature has lead to many joyous inspiration tunes and lectures on the way music should be. He's even proposing legislation (the PIRATE Act) to further his intellectual property concerns. (http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,62830,00.html) And now a super spiffy INDUCE Act (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/001631.php) Overpeer relatedly is the worlds leader in content protection. With an average of 25 billion downloads a month, no other musical performer has a farther reaching influence. %20 brings these two industry leaders together for some moments. The result is a sound file (which contains the bonus "Freedom's Glitch") of genre blending lecture-ation on the potential of music's future. These are your neighbors, the future's shining |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||. %20 Who is: %20 - the hexidecimal equivalent of pressing the space bar. Website: Senator Orrin Hatch: Senatorial representative from Utah, Orrin G. Hatch's career as a square peg has lead him to propose legislature like the PIRATE Act. But Sen. Hatch is also a musician. Collaborating with Janice Kapp Perry, the senator has written over 300 tunes of inspirational music. U2's Bono suggested the senator call his musical personna "Johnny Trap Door". Senatorial Website: Music Website: Music Website: Orrin Hatch Golf Tournament: Content Industry Contribution 2004: $157,860 Overpeer: Overpeer is the number one downloaded artist ever. With an average of 25 billion downloads (150 million unique consumers) a month, no other artist will ever come close to the success Overpeer has gained though hard work and dedication to the art of patented interdiction and spoofing technologies. Their musical services entered a new level of successful self-promotion when they announced their Titanium 99% success package. Overpeer's CEO Marc Morgenstern has a wide variety of music industry experience, but the true rising star of Overpeer is Cheol-Woong Lee, who invented the patent which is the main engine for the Overpeer warp drive of musical output. Website: Patent: Titanium 99%: Fan Website: Industry Contribution 2004: $4 Million Sources: Senator Orrin Hatch: "Everyday Heroes" "Freedom's Light" "How His Glory Shines" "Look For the Lord in the Mornin'" "Heal Our Land" "Many Different Roads" "All Because of You" "My God Is Love" "The Cross Before the Crown" "Alleluia! Alleluia!" "America United" Lectures: Future of Music Conference - "Empowerment in the Digital Age" Radio Free Cyberspace - "Episode #1" Senator Music Hearing - "Radio EFF" Unedited Keynote Address Overpeer (RIAA-Mixes): Jay-Z - "Dirt Off Your Shoulder" 50 cent - "P.I.M.P." Aerosmith - "Sweet Emotion" Alicia Keys - "You Don't Know My Name" Britney Spears - "Hit Me Baby One More Time" Sheryl Crow - "All I Wanna Do" Dido - "White Flag" Guns and Roses - "Paradise City" No Doubt - "Hey Baby" Outkast - "Hey Ya" Aerosmith - "Dream On" Guns and Roses - "Novermber Rain" Guns and Roses - "Knocking On Heavens Door" Nirvana - "Come As You Are" R.Kelly - "Ignition" Pearl Jam - "Jeremy" Pearl Jam - "Daughter" Pearl Jam - "Even Flow" Patsy Cline - "Crazy" Eric Clapton - "Cocaine" Ashanti - "BabyBabyBaby" From aleph at aleph-null.net Mon Jun 21 08:01:47 2004 From: aleph at aleph-null.net (niall munnelly) Date: Mon Jun 21 07:01:52 2004 Subject: [Rumori] [irdial-list-admin@irdial.com: [Irdial-list] Irdial Wilco and WEA Settle Spy Radio Sample Lawsuit] Message-ID: <20040621140147.GC23658@pogo.dreamhost.com> from the irdial list. sticking it to the man aside, i'm not entirely comfortable with this news. Irdial Wilco and WEA Settle Spy Radio Sample Lawsuit In a classic David and Goliath confrontation, Irdial-Discs, experimental independent music label from the UK, brought a High Court action against WEA International over their CD release "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" by the group Wilco, which flagrantly infringes Irdial"s copyright. "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" bears a track entitled "Poor Places", which contains one minute and thirty seconds of sound from "Phonetic Alphabet Nato" lifted directly from disc one of the quadruple CD "The Conet Project: Recordings of Shortwave Numbers Stations". The Conet Project track features a female voice repeating over and over the phrase, "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot", which Wilco took for the title of their critically acclaimed CD. WEA International did not ask for permission to include this sound from our release in the CD "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot", which has sold close to one million infringing copies. The Conet Project is a historic collection of espionage "Numbers Stations". These Numbers Stations are found on the shortwave radio bands, and are used by the CIA, MI5, MOSSAD and the rest of the world"s espionage agencies to communicate to their agents in the field. The Conet Project is the first ever CD release to systematically collect recordings of all known Numbers Stations world-wide for the purpose of the historic preservation of this largely unknown area of espionage tradecraft. Before its release, there were no recordings of Numbers Stations in The Library of Congress or The British Library, both of which now have a comprehensive set of examples of this phenomenon thanks to The Conet Project. Numbers stations have been on the air for at least 30 years, and they can still be heard today, all over the world, without any special equipment other than an ordinary short wave radio. They use a simple yet unbreakable system of encryption, known as a "One Time Pad", to scramble the messages sent out to spies at work in foreign countries. The bizarre sound of these stations is deeply fascinating to shortwave enthusiasts, experimental sound artists and musicians. Each station has its own peculiarities and methods of operation, making finding and cataloguing them a rewarding hobby for the short wave enthusiasts who monitor them, and listening to them an inspiration to lovers of experimental music and "found art". This is why The Conet Project has been sampled and incorporated into dozens of compositions and works of art since its initial release. By taking this sound from our release, tacking it onto the end of the track "Poor Places", and failing to obtain permission to release their CD with our sound on it, WEA International, an RIAA record label, infringed our copyright. It is only after the case was brought to the High Court of Justice in London that they have finally relented and have been pressured to, in their own words, "reluctantly agree" to pay Irdial-Discs a royalty in perpetuity on a worldwide basis. 000 Links: http://irdial.com/conet.htm http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/ http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000055XXU/202-5006876-2429419 Contact: Akin Fernandez, Irdial-Discs Irdial@irdial.com Irdial-Discs is distributed in the USA by Forced Exposure: Arthur Nalis, arthur@forcedexposure.com -- yours, niall. .. . . . . . . . . . aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence. http://syncretism.net From stalliongsta at yahoo.com Mon Jun 21 08:10:34 2004 From: stalliongsta at yahoo.com (stAllio! the original wanksta) Date: Mon Jun 21 07:10:46 2004 Subject: [Rumori] [irdial-list-admin@irdial.com: [Irdial-list] Irdial Wilco and WEA Settle Spy Radio Sample Lawsuit] In-Reply-To: <20040621140147.GC23658@pogo.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <20040621141034.58146.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> --- niall munnelly wrote: > The Conet Project is a historic collection of espionage "Numbers > Stations". > These Numbers Stations are found on the shortwave radio bands, and > are used > by > the CIA, MI5, MOSSAD and the rest of the world"s espionage agencies > to > communicate to their agents in the field. ... > By taking this sound from our release, tacking it onto the end of the > track > "Poor Places", and failing to obtain permission to release their CD > with our > sound on it, WEA International, an RIAA record label, infringed our > copyright. > It is only after the case was brought to the High Court of Justice in > London > that they have finally relented and have been pressured to, in their > own > words, > "reluctantly agree" to pay Irdial-Discs a royalty in perpetuity on a > worldwide > basis. but wouldn't the cia be the actual copyright holders in this case, not the conet project? and wouldn't the conet project be actually violating the cia's copyright by recording these broadcasts in the first place? i'm confused about where their "ownership" comes in. ===== "Good stuff, but exactly the kind of thing I like but can not sell." http://www.animalswithinanimals.com http://badtastesucks.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From anthonyh at epic.co.uk Mon Jun 21 16:18:44 2004 From: anthonyh at epic.co.uk (Anthony Hall) Date: Mon Jun 21 07:19:55 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Irdial Wilco and WEA Settle Spy Radio Sample Lawsuit In-Reply-To: <20040621140147.GC23658@pogo.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20040621150614.03401e88@post.epic.co.uk> At 07:01 21/06/2004 -0700, you wrote: >from the irdial list. sticking it to the man aside, i'm not entirely >comfortable with this news. Agreed. "...failing to obtain permission to release their CD with our sound on it..." Whose sound exactly ? I guess they are claiming copyright over the recording as opposed to the "composition" but that's quite offensive. They say loads of people have sampled their CDs - do they all pay a royaltty or did Irdial just go for WEA to get some cash, or were they just narked that they were never asked ??? Personally, I made a track a few years ago that had a russian numbers station on it, taped off shortwave by myself and then cut up number by number - what happens if that station is also on the Irdial discs ? How do I prove that I made that recording from radio and didn't sample it from their CD (I know there are ways to do it, just making a point). You're right - this leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. -- Ant From peoplelikeus at mistral.co.uk Mon Jun 21 16:21:57 2004 From: peoplelikeus at mistral.co.uk (Vicki Bennett) Date: Mon Jun 21 07:26:26 2004 Subject: [Rumori] [irdial-list-admin@irdial.com: [Irdial-list] Irdial Wilco and WEA Settle Spy Radio Sample Lawsuit] In-Reply-To: <20040621141034.58146.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040621141034.58146.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5A6FAB20-C38E-11D8-B76C-000A95C713E8@mistral.co.uk> Hi Was there something before this on Rumori? Would like to know more about this case, seems very odd indeed. You're saying Irdial sued WEA? Even though they have put the Conet Project on the Internet Archive? Not to say the IA is royalty free, of course there is attribution needed in relevant cases and so on, but considering it's recordings of radio waves the whole suing seems out of character with the spirit of the thing. Sort of like someone who records scanners in a very straight way then releasing that then suing someone. Has the thread just been transferred across from the Irdial list? Please give us more info here. Vicki On 21 Jun 2004, at 15:10, stAllio!the original wanksta wrote: > --- niall munnelly wrote: >> The Conet Project is a historic collection of espionage "Numbers >> Stations". >> These Numbers Stations are found on the shortwave radio bands, and >> are used >> by >> the CIA, MI5, MOSSAD and the rest of the world"s espionage agencies >> to >> communicate to their agents in the field. > > ... > >> By taking this sound from our release, tacking it onto the end of the >> track >> "Poor Places", and failing to obtain permission to release their CD >> with our >> sound on it, WEA International, an RIAA record label, infringed our >> copyright. >> It is only after the case was brought to the High Court of Justice in >> London >> that they have finally relented and have been pressured to, in their >> own >> words, >> "reluctantly agree" to pay Irdial-Discs a royalty in perpetuity on a >> worldwide >> basis. > > but wouldn't the cia be the actual copyright holders in this case, not > the conet project? and wouldn't the conet project be actually > violating the cia's copyright by recording these broadcasts in the > first place? i'm confused about where their "ownership" comes in. > > ===== > "Good stuff, but exactly the kind of thing I like but can not sell." > http://www.animalswithinanimals.com > http://badtastesucks.com > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > > http://www.peoplelikeus.org http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/PL From at at ankitoner.com Tue Jun 22 09:46:57 2004 From: at at ankitoner.com (at) Date: Mon Jun 21 23:43:30 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Irdial Wilco and WEA Settle Spy Radio SampleLawsuit References: <5.2.0.9.0.20040621150614.03401e88@post.epic.co.uk> Message-ID: <40D7D5E1.F0862C9E@ankitoner.com> I don't see what copyright over the recording they can claim, since they recorded a recording (or is the CIA transmitting live, and even if it was, so what, you don't have copyright over the recording of a John Peel session, do you?) I think the point is in the fact that "after the case was brought to the High Court of Justice in London they have finally relented..." The big boys NEVER go to court in copyright cases although they always use it as a threat. They ALWAYS reach an extrajudiciary agreement. The reason is quite simple: when they go to court, they run the risk of losing and they have a lot to lose (in fact, they OFTEN lose). Their big army of lawyers is not meant to go to court but tho reach agreements. You do not pay a million-dollar lawyer to present a case in front of of a fifty-thousand-dollar-a-year judge. That would be wasting money. (And of course this case was presented in front of a London court, where the judges are not payed in dollars, probably still wear wigs, and where copyright laws are somewhat different from the ones at DMCA-land). Anki Toner En/Na Anthony Hall ha escrit: > At 07:01 21/06/2004 -0700, you wrote: > >from the irdial list. sticking it to the man aside, i'm not entirely > >comfortable with this news. > > Agreed. "...failing to obtain permission to release their CD with our sound > on it..." > > Whose sound exactly ? I guess they are claiming copyright over the > recording as opposed to the "composition" but that's quite offensive. > > They say loads of people have sampled their CDs - do they all pay a > royaltty or did Irdial just go for WEA to get some cash, or were they just > narked that they were never asked ??? > > Personally, I made a track a few years ago that had a russian numbers > station on it, taped off shortwave by myself and then cut up number by > number - what happens if that station is also on the Irdial discs ? How do > I prove that I made that recording from radio and didn't sample it from > their CD (I know there are ways to do it, just making a point). > > You're right - this leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. > > -- > > Ant > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ From david at personify.tv Tue Jun 22 12:49:52 2004 From: david at personify.tv (David Goldschmidt) Date: Tue Jun 22 11:49:09 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Fw: Billboard Digital Entertainment Conference & Awards - Nov. 4 and 5 Message-ID: <033101c45889$b4325da0$2253a943@userzwr59olfli> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Digital Media Wire" To: "digitalmediawire" Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:24 AM Subject: Billboard Digital Entertainment Conference & Awards - Nov. 4 and 5 > Dear Readers, > > We are pleased to announce the launch of the first annual Billboard > Digital Entertainment Conference & Awards, a partnership between Billboard > and Digital Media Wire. 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Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From stalliongsta at yahoo.com Wed Jun 23 21:46:38 2004 From: stalliongsta at yahoo.com (stAllio! the original wanksta) Date: Wed Jun 23 20:46:43 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Irdial Wilco and WEA Settle Spy Radio SampleLawsuit In-Reply-To: <40D7D5E1.F0862C9E@ankitoner.com> Message-ID: <20040624034638.24704.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> i checked google news for both "conet" and "irdial" and this is the *only* link i got (well, this and an earlier draft, also on wired), so apparently the mainstream press is not covering this (yet?). it's a good read though: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_6 ===== "Good stuff, but exactly the kind of thing I like but can not sell." http://www.animalswithinanimals.com http://badtastesucks.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From at at ankitoner.com Thu Jun 24 18:15:50 2004 From: at at ankitoner.com (at) Date: Thu Jun 24 08:12:24 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Irdial Wilco and WEA Settle Spy Radio SampleLawsuit References: <20040624034638.24704.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40DAF026.61FC09DF@ankitoner.com> >From the Wired article: To Tweedy -- newly flush, after the success of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot -- the cash isn't that big a deal. "It's an interesting legal issue," said his lawyer, Josh Greer. "But it's not worth the money to resolve whether these strange shortwave beasts are copyrightable." AT En/Na "stAllio! the original wanksta" ha escrit: > i checked google news for both "conet" and "irdial" and this is the > *only* link i got (well, this and an earlier draft, also on wired), so > apparently the mainstream press is not covering this (yet?). it's a > good read though: > > http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_6 > > ===== > "Good stuff, but exactly the kind of thing I like but can not sell." > http://www.animalswithinanimals.com > http://badtastesucks.com > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ From peoplelikeus at mistral.co.uk Thu Jun 24 23:34:21 2004 From: peoplelikeus at mistral.co.uk (Vicki Bennett) Date: Thu Jun 24 14:34:30 2004 Subject: [Rumori] 365 Days Project re-launched Message-ID: <41A08F66-C626-11D8-BE52-000A95C713E8@mistral.co.uk> -------------------------------------- The 365 Days Project -------------------------------------- UbuWeb is pleased to announce the re-launch and permanent home of The 365 Days Project. This legendary project, in which an MP3 a day - of mostly outsider, novelty, and oddball recordings - was made available for the public to download over the course of 2003. Briefly taken offline, it is now presented here in its entirety, complete with images and vast commentary on each selection. The 365 Days Project is part of UbuWeb's redesigned, newly-named and much-expanded Outsiders section. The 365 Days Project can be accessed at: http://ubu.com/outsiders/365/ From david at personify.tv Fri Jun 25 20:24:25 2004 From: david at personify.tv (David Goldschmidt) Date: Fri Jun 25 19:23:20 2004 Subject: [Rumori] 4 competitions, 4 subjects and $400 (of my own money) Message-ID: <00a501c45b24$b37e36c0$2253a943@userzwr59olfli> Hi all- I am going to personally host four small contests (two weeks each) to see who can rip and remix from TV/film/etc ... and I need some ideas for the four subjects/themes. For example, "Ronald Reagan" may be one of the subjects ... the contestants would have to rip and remix anything they could find related to the ex-prez Another subject/theme may be ... "prescription drug commercial advertisements". Hence, contestants would have to rip and remix from commercials like Viagra, Claritin, etc Another theme may be that of a particular Film or Film Director. Another may be a particular corporate brand Or possibly a particular phrase such as "I have a dream" or "United we stand". So if there is any subject that you would like to have ripped and dissected then let me know. Check out the website for more info ... www.mediatrips.com Thanks, david goldschmidt san francisco, ca www.mediatrips.com +++sampling popculture is not a crime From postalscale at yahoo.com Sat Jun 26 16:44:07 2004 From: postalscale at yahoo.com (Paul Smith) Date: Sat Jun 26 15:44:42 2004 Subject: [Rumori] 4 competitions, 4 subjects and $400 (of my own money) In-Reply-To: <00a501c45b24$b37e36c0$2253a943@userzwr59olfli> Message-ID: <20040626224407.28916.qmail@web53506.mail.yahoo.com> > Another subject/theme may be ... "prescription drug > commercial advertisements". Hence, contestants would > have to rip and remix from commercials like Viagra, > Claritin, etc > That sounds like my contribution to the comp "Free Speech For Sale", where the many, many side effects of the various medications were stitched together to the bouncy music a mix of the commercials themselves. It sounded horrible, the side effects, I mean. ===== The Disco Potato is everywhere, by dint of its 0.86 a/r. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! 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