Steev: "dan, you misunderstand. The topic is not what is art. it's
how do you value art. Sure, let's agree that everything is
art. but now how do you judge it, especially the art that is
a copy of some other art?"
Chris P.:"My real question was about value to the (re)creator: If I make a
simulacrum
of an existing piece, how can it be of value to me? I don't think you can
say "it's art, period". For me, art has to have a direction and a purpose
beyond its creation."
The original question was vague. No, my answer wouldn't be appropriate in
some cases. Chris, are you asking how can an artist value their own work?
Steev:"there ARE answers, but they're difficult. they require time
and effort. that's my point. it's just being lazy to throw
up your hands and say "it's all good"."
There are levels at which many things are the same. I don't think you
appreciate the value of this perspective, and I don't think you understand
my answer; it's not the end-all-be-all (stop laughing) to some method of
judging the value of art. On one level, art's just art, everything is
subjective, whoopdee, no value, however everyone has a different
appreciation of the "art" and everyone values it differently; that's the
objective perspective I think YOU think I'm trying to satisfy with my
blanket answers.
Steev:"have you actually never heard of it before? i seem to
remember you mentioning you were in college and were taking
some art classes or something. did no one mention
postmodernism in these classes?"
No. True, but it's been a while, too. Can't remember. I read several
dictionary definitions and read about it in context dozens of times, but
it's still pretty nebulous.
"steev, you crack me up. "
Jon, you crack _me_ up.
ugh,
dan
Steev Hise <steevATdetritus.net> on 05/31/2001 06:12:04 PM
Please respond to rumoriATdetritus.net
To: rumoriATdetritus.net
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Subject: Re: [rumori] the simple and post-modern
dan, you misunderstand. The topic is not what is art. it's
how do you value art. Sure, let's agree that everything is
art. but now how do you judge it, especially the art that is
a copy of some other art?
>I agree that Chris' question was provocative and well-founded (or I
>wouldn't have tried to answer), and I agree that there are no clear cut
>answers OTHER THAN "it's all art/ it's all good." I don't deny that this
is
for me your answer was a non-answer, that why i objected to
it. it was cop-out. lack of easy answers does not mean one
should dismiss the issue with an easy non-answer.
>I don't see how I could be wrong about something with no real answer.
BTW,
there ARE answers, but they're difficult. they require time
and effort. that's my point. it's just being lazy to throw
up your hands and say "it's all good".
>Can anyone reccommend a source that discusses the concept of
>"post-modernism?"
have you actually never heard of it before? i seem to
remember you mentioning you were in college and were taking
some art classes or something. did no one mention
postmodernism in these classes?
try this:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/086316188X/ref%3Dnosim/hallbook/002-
6139028-7326414
and here's a good site on it:
http://www.ebbflux.com/postmodern/
smh
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