I guess what reminded me of the Good Vibrations covers was that I think both
Rundgren and PTV were trying to establish their studio virtuosity, and
therefore their individual creative accomplishment, even originality, by
making as close a copy to someone else's work as possible.
>From: dserklandATnish.org
>Reply-To: rumoriATdetritus.net
>To: rumoriATdetritus.net
>Subject: Re: [rumori] soundmosaic
>Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:37:15 -0400
>
>"Are these two re-mindings actually of 2 different kinds?
>Perhaps Doug was reminded conceptually (the ideas resemble
>each other), whereas Dan was reminded sensually (Dab, I
>would agree, aurally resembles the sound mosaics)..."
>
>Yes, I was thinking the same thing as I read your post. I think they both
>sound very much alike, however, "Dab" was a reconstruction with one source
>whereas Soundmosaic uses multiple sources. I COULD NOT have guessed the
>sources of the soundmosaic - I couldn't hear Beatles or Coltrane, but I
>could've guessed "Dab's" source without having known it.
>
>Steev, do you if "Dab" was algorithmically generated? To me it always
>sounded like an abuse of the time-stretch algorithm.
>
>I wonder what it would do using the same file for both sources. There are
>many things I'd like to try with Soundmosaic ;^)
>
>Is anyone going to try to compile it on their system? Is it Unix-only?
>
>-dan
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>Steev Hise <steevATdetritus.net> on 05/30/2001 03:00:44 PM
>
>Please respond to rumoriATdetritus.net
>
>To: rumoriATdetritus.net
>cc: (bcc: Dan Serkland/National/NISH)
>Subject: Re: [rumori] soundmosaic
>
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>
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>
>Doug Harvey:
>->"It reminds me of both Todd rundgren and Psychic TV getting hit singles
>by
>->making barely distinguishable (from the original) covers of 'Good
>->Vibrations'"
>Dan:
>->Or "Dab"
>
>I've heard neither of the Good Vibrations covers (maybe i
>don't need to, heh). but Dab is not a re-creation of "Bad".
>it is an original work, and i don't think anyone would be
>unable to tell it apart from "Bad"... I'd say some other
>tracks from Plunderphonic are better examples of this idea,
>the idea of re-creating a work from fragments. But on the
>other hand, one of the best things about all of
>Plunderphonic, and any *good* work of recycled culture, is
>that it bears the mark of it's creator, part of which means
>that it is distinct from the works that it recycles.
>
>Are these two re-mindings actually of 2 different kinds?
>Perhaps Doug was reminded conceptually (the ideas resemble
>each other), whereas Dan was reminded sensually (Dab, I
>would agree, aurally resembles the sound mosaics)...
>
>smh
>
>
>Steev Hise, Automagickal Adept
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