When you recreate something that closely, in what way is it yours? How does
it have value?
Elisabeth Subrin's "Shulie", has value for me because it is a conscious
quest/question about what is true and false. I don't think I can say the
same thing about Bauhaus's "Ziggy Stardust" or Gus Van Sant's "Psycho".
(I think PTV figured out that they had created a simulacrum and so included
Genesis P-Orridge's creepy rap in the middle of the song.)
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Harvey [mailto:dghrvyAThotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:29 PM
To: rumoriATdetritus.net
Subject: Re: [rumori] soundmosaic
It reminds me of both Todd rundgren and Psychic TV getting hit singles by
making barely distinguishable (from the original) covers of 'Good
Vibrations'
>From: Steev Hise <steevATdetritus.net>
>Reply-To: rumoriATdetritus.net
>To: <rumoriATdetritus.net>
>Subject: [rumori] soundmosaic
>Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:31:50 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Tue, 29 May 2001 found Jim Carrico writing:
>
>->speaking of grey areas, i've just stumbled across a
>->project pertinent to this discussion, called Soundmosaic
>
>->hilarious concept really - given a large enough sound library, and enough
>->raw processing power, it should be possible to regenerate any piece of
>->audio from fragments of other sounds.
>
>wow. that is really really cool! it sounds really great. it
>really is like the audio equivalent of those photomosaics.
>
>conceptually it isn't quite that amazing, though, given the
>nature of sound. Fourier showed us long ago that all sound
>can be represented as the summation of many many sine waves
>(this fact ended up being one of the foundations of digital
>audio). so you don't need to make sounds out of samples, you
>can go all the way to the extreme and make them out of pure
>sine tones. the interesting thing is in the imperfection of
>it. you wouldnt want to succeed at it perfectly, but hearing
>the seams is really REALLY great.
>
>of course this "atomic" way of looking at sound does bring
>up some interesting hypothetical test cases in the area of
>intellectual property. for example, can one own the
>copyright on a single sample (1/44,100 of a second of
>sound)? etc etc.
>
>thanx for mentioning this, jim. i look forward to checking
>that url again in a few months to see what other sounds
>they've built....
>
>smh
>
>
>Steev Hise, WebSlinger
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