"MUSIC IS OVER" (tm) Chris Ball 1997
Yes there is something new:
music by non-humans!
--- Kim Manning <k13ATmindspring.com> wrote all the Thai Elephant Orchestra
tracks
> http://www.bestweb.net/~mlj/thai_elephant_orch.htm
>
> It sounds like
> stuff!
(Not to mention machine-generated composition, including
machine-generated collage)
If you think we're bored for music, think of the Elephants.
No, think of an audio speaker- all it does is push air in and out all day -
never side to side, never at a rate or pressure it hasn't pushed air in the
past..
This "nothing new under the sun" argument reminds me of my Dad when I wanted
him to buy me an Apple II:
"All computers can do is move ones and zeros. They're just like an endless
series of dixie cups and marbles, and you can put the marbles in different
dixie cups, and thats all."
Technically correct but not necessarily entertaining. Also, a car is only a
means to convert chemical energy into wheel/surface friction.
So yes, there has been no innovation in music for hundreds of years - and
yet people STEAL the worthless stuff, and it's been regulated by LAW! Roit
act!
RE The time domain:
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EVERYTHING IS NOW UP TO DATE
THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE
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I just finished "Gilgamesh" and I turned to my roomate and said "Did you
hear what happened to Gilgamesh?"
Evidently my sense of time is not like others (sorry I'm late) - I'm always
for example surprised and disappointed that I can't go and see Yoko Ono
after I buy her "latest album" (my latest purchase). So that's what I mean
above: (music) History is Now, man. I was just going to leave it at that
but then I thought I'd explain it more for the benefit of both of you who
read this far.
Everyman wrote on Snuggles:
This is FINALLY something worded in a more logical way to help back
up what I've been trying to articulate for years now!
I have online friends who are fighting hard to defend the heavy "changes"
in top 40 music, but I just don't see it anymore. There's a huge
difference between top 40 in 1980 compared to top 40 in 1990,
but a significant LESS difference comparing 1990 to 2000.
Or try...top 40 from 1985 compared to top 40 from 2000
It's significant, but not nearly as much as say:
Top 40 from 1965 compared to 1980.
It appears as though the curve of sound innovation has come
to a slowing halt.
I took a music seminar FIVE YEARS AGO where a classical
music instructor told our class "all that can be done with natural
sound progression, has already been done...the way we are teaching
our students to innovate now is by combing their instruments with
computer technology....we're encouraging them to SAMPLE their
own work to create something new....without sampling, sound has
come as far as it can go"
VIVA LA COLLAGE!!!!!
Every Man, March 13, 2001
Quotations left below since they are relavent, and encouraged to
be read before replying.
At 10:35 PM 3/12/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>>Yes!
>>DJ
>>Negativland
> >Don,
> >
> >I call what you're talking about here the "curve of sound innovation."
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