i've always found this interesting: advertising makes constant and
sophisticated use of surrealist techniques. a shoe thrown into a tree
causes a car to fall to the ground. (the car is powerful, and the
driver had let the clutch out too fast, is the only explanation for
this.) groups of young men eating fast food do so to the rhythm of a
popular song -- not a part of MY everyday reality. these are but two
examples (without mentioning the talking chihuahua) among myriads of
surrealist techniques used in all forms of advertising.
these are glimpses into the dreamstate of corporations. something
beyond the mere selling of soap flakes is going on here -- these are
expressions of corporate fantasy. they take the posture of humor so
we don't have to think about them so much, but these are deadly
serious cultural artifacts, as effective at moving money and materiel
through society as a mack truck.
>Thank you for your kind reply, LLoyd.
>
>I believe therein lies a major social significance of our art, particularly
>audio culture jamming art, not to mention visual. I find that surrealist
>artists want their work to be a link between the abstract spiritual realities
>and the real forms of the material world. The term spiritual is being used
>loosely here...I'm thinking of it more in terms of subconscious thoughts.
>To surrealists, the art stands as a metaphor for an inner reality.
>Through their
>craft, whether it be audio collage, painting, sculpting or drawing,
>artists could
>bring the inner realities of the subconscious to the conscious mind,
>so that their
>meaning could be deciphered through analysis.
>
>My girlfriend studied Michelangelo and Leonardo, and believes that they
>advanced the knowledge of the body's anatomy. It think surrealist artists
>strive to advance the knowledge of the psyche.
>
>At 08:36 AM 3/9/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>>but of course -- sampling (collage) is an ally of surrealism, and a
>>favored technique of dada. dada saw a failed world (post WW I)
>>built by logic, and embraced nonsense. the surrealists after them
>>embraced the meaning-bearing nonsense of dreams and dream states.
>>
>>
>>>I just woke up from a very odd dream...and it got me thinking...
>>>
>>>dreams, in a way, are like samples of our everyday lives.
>>>
>>>in this dream i heard many many collaging phrases from
>>>both sides of my head, and i'm going to write them down
>>>before i forget them:
>>>
>>>"art is art, it is not music"
>>>"music has nothing to do with words"
>>>"it isn't music when it's not a whole"
>>>"freedom is art"
>>>"music has nothing to do with freedom"
>>>"we sell music, we listen to art"
>>>"everything is a part of something"
>>>"everything that is not a part, is music"
>>>"we buy things as a whole, we sell things in parts"
>>>"art is not music"
>>>"no, this is music...you can buy this"
>>>"You cannot buy art"
>>>
>>>There was more...but those are the only phrases I can remember.
>>>
>>>I'm half tempted to hunt down spoken word samples that are
>>>damned close to these, and eumulating the sound of this dream
>>>as much as possible, and then making it available to all of you.
>>>It was incredibly powerful to me....I just had to mention it here,
>>>where I figured it might be appreciated.
>>>
>>>I always felt dreams and sample-art went together almost hand-in-hand.
>>>When I listen to copies of our radio show, I'm often reminded of the
>>>feeling of falling asleep with my eyes open, and being unsure if I'm
>>>awake or not....hearing noises that don't seem right, but things
>>>LOOK normal. It makes me wish to attain that effect all the more
>>>during the radio show. For those of you who have heard it, I hope
>>>we pull that off to some extent for you.
>>>
>>>I think we emulate dreams....making new art out of old.
>>>
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