[rumori] new barbie list

Steev [rumori] new barbie list
Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:41:30 -0800 (PST) (00879993690, Pine.LNX.3.95.971119102821.22834B-100000ATflotsam.detritus.net)

hi all,
The Detritus involvement with the Distorted Barbie case has
increased further with the hosting of a mailing list,
barbieqATdetritus.net. Since the interests of the list coincide in
many ways with that of you all on this list, i thot i would mention it.
To get on the list just send mail to
majordomoATdetritus.net
with su*scribe barbieq <yr email>
in the body of the message (replace the * with a b - sorry, majordomo
bounces messages with that word in it!!)

Below is a sampling of the discussion already going on. There are
about 10 people on the list already and 3 or 4 of them are among those who
have been attacked by Mattel lawyers about their Barbie content.

best wishes,

smh

Steev Hise, Subversive Radical Hippy Hacker
steevATcyborganic.net http://www.cyborganic.com/people/steev multiple webcams: http://cam3.detritus.net/security.html -----------------------------------------------------------------
"...so long as capitalism survives, human relations and conciousness will be fragmented and distorted. Unity is impossible in a
competitive, exploitative consumer society." -Chris Cutler
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:35:47 -0600
From: Jenna Rossi <jennaATimajik.com> Reply-To: barbieqATdetritus.net
To: barbieqATdetritus.net
Subject: Re: [barbie-queue] barbie list

Hi, Everyone!!!

I don't know who's idea this was, but it certainly was a good one --
Thanks!!!

Also, Many Thanks to Scot, Sonique, Xian, and all others who have worked
so hard in support of this "cause". Your efforts are appreciated!!!
Mark Napier wrote:

>
> This is great. Looks like you guys have been busy. I've been talking to
> some lawyers, and looks like I may have legal representation pro bono.
> Should know for sure today. Several attorneys (speaking informally) have
> assured me that Mattel's case for trademark infringement is non-existent,
> and that their copyright case is weak. Two attorneys said that Kate Moss
> may have a more legitimate claim against my 'Kate Moss Barbie' than Mattel does.
>
Good Luck with your attorney, Mark! I hope this works out for you. I
haven't yet located one. There are NO ATTORNEYS at all where I live,
much less ones that specialize in issues such as this...... I do
understand, however, what these attorneys are saying.... Now that I've
had an opportunity to read the Actual Law that was cited, I'm convinced
that my Site was never in violation - and believe I could prove my case!

- It would be so easy to just (officially) capitulate & go on my way.... The name is not really integral to my concept..... In fact, in light of
all I've recently learned, my mannequin would probably be much better
off by losing "that name", along with all of its attending emotional and cultural baggage!

There are, however, much larger issues at stake here, besides the fate
of my puny little website.... And these are the things that seemed to
have grabbed onto me and will not let go, no matter how much I try....

The events of the past couple of weeks have been extraordinary - to say
the least!

I feel as though I've been snatched onto a train....... and that train
is called: "Barbie"....... I've no idea where its leading....... But I do know that its gaining "momentum"......
HANG IN THERE, EVERYONE!!!

jenna
--
www.imajik.com

>>-->:j!



> --------------------------
> The Dï$tØrtëD Bøøbie won't take it lying down!
> http://www.interport.net/~napier/barbie
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> The Distorted Barbie questions the effect of a girl doll on society
> http://ezone.org/ez/e7/articles/napier/barbie.html - but Mattel told
> Enterzone to remove the page - http://pobox.com/~xian/barbie/ - Want
> to help? Copy me into your .sig --the Barbie meme .sig virus
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The Distorted Barbie questions the effect of a girl doll on society
http://ezone.org/ez/e7/articles/napier/barbie.html - but Mattel told Enterzone to remove the page - http://pobox.com/~xian/barbie/ - Want to help? Copy me into your .sig --the Barbie meme .sig virus

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